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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #400 on: May 03, 2008, 07:01:00 pm »
We're not asking you to be as smart as we are, but we're asking that you not TRY to be dumb.  We don't dislike you, man.  We dislike it when you act immature.
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« Reply #401 on: May 03, 2008, 07:05:37 pm »
I'm not trying to be dumb.
When people insult me like they were, my reaction isn't get defensive.
It's agree and see if they stop.
I guess that screwed me over.

You know, I understand where you are coming from.
I have run online pool leagues and there are people who get obnoxious with "Oh am I playing yet. I want to play. I'm getting bored."
I hate that that is what I am here.
I'm the obnoxious player.
I don't know how that happened but I am very sorry and I think my decision is what is best.
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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #402 on: May 03, 2008, 07:07:53 pm »
I'm not trying to be dumb.
When people insult me like they were, my reaction isn't get defensive.
It's agree and see if they stop.
I guess that screwed me over.
That's not what screwed you over. It was you going "Yeah I'm dumb and I'm going to keep acting that way" and then continuing on your merry way, when what we were asking of you was to modify your behaviour a little bit.
That's what got you.
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« Reply #403 on: May 03, 2008, 07:12:26 pm »
wind that is what I am saying.
I was called dumb and agreed hoping the insults would stop.
I expected it in the war thread, not all of them.
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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #404 on: May 03, 2008, 07:32:42 pm »
Kmd, what is this decision you're referring to?

Agreeing with someone to get them to stop isn't a good idea, honestly.  If people get onto you or start making fun of you, learn from it.  Tell them to shut up.  Admit you screwed up, and MOVE ON. 
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« Reply #405 on: May 03, 2008, 07:37:03 pm »
the decision to finish the game and then leave everyone alone.
And I have already admitted to screwing up several times.
I screwed up and  I'm sorry for it.
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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #406 on: May 03, 2008, 07:41:58 pm »
You still don't seem to be listening though.  We don't want you to disappear.  We want you to join us and act like yourself, not some immature version of yourself. 

You DID admit you screwed up, but the point was the second part of my sentence.  MOVE ON.

We don't want you to leave just because we picked on you.  I apologize for that, but we were trying to communicate a point - this ISN'T a playground, it's a place to kick back and have some good fun.  But as it IS also part of a business, it's a place to do so with a bit of decorum.

C'mon man, you think you can give it another shot?  I think you'll fit in just fine.
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« Reply #407 on: May 03, 2008, 07:48:20 pm »
That's the thing.
What you have seen IS myself.
yes, I see your point and agree with it from my experiences in my online pool leagues.
Everyone here is older and more intelligent than me, and sure, probably more mature too.
The fact is you are right. I am a stereotypical teenager and not the same kind of person as most of the people on these forums.
I feel bad that I made it look like ericas friends are like this.
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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #408 on: May 03, 2008, 07:56:41 pm »
Don't feel bad, man.

If you'll relax a little and realize you don't have to try to impress us or anything to fit in, we'll back off about your posts.  Deal?
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« Reply #409 on: May 03, 2008, 08:04:52 pm »
ok if I do anything wrong from now on please just let me know and I will stop.
It didn't need to go as far as changing my posts to insulting my girlfriend.
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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #410 on: May 03, 2008, 08:53:58 pm »
Fair enough, although you've got a lesson to learn in regards to comments made about people that are connected to you outside of the world of the forums.  I don't see you getting upset about "your mom" jokes.  Why?  Everyone knows they're just jokes. 

That's all any of those posts were.  Sorry if I offended you.
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« Reply #411 on: May 03, 2008, 09:02:07 pm »
ok but all I was saying was that having a girlfriend I have no reason to watch porn.
That shouldn't be reason for anyone else to say anything about her.
"your mom" jokes have reached the point where they aren't specifically about anyone's mother, they are as you put it "just jokes".
I just didn't like the specific comment about my girlfriend being posted under my name.
As far as I see it that is over though.
I'm sorry for it all and I think it's time we do what you suggested and move on.
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« Reply #412 on: May 03, 2008, 09:25:03 pm »
ok if I do anything wrong from now on please just let me know and I will stop.
It didn't need to go as far as changing my posts to insulting my girlfriend.

Allow me to chime in here a bit.

First off, as far as the "OMG YOU INSULTED MY GIRLFRIEND THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR" thing, give me a fucking break. I've seen dumb fucking people get in dumb fucking fights with dumb fucking retards who insulted their dumb fucking cunt of a girlfriend for dumb fucking (and patently obvious) reasons. And it was fucking dumb.

Don't be fucking dumb. Chivalry is dead, leave it buried in the last century where it belongs. Opening doors, being nice, etc. is all well and good, but the whole "I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL FOR INSULTING MY LAYDEEZ HONAH" is stupid. Guess what? People are assholes, and they'll poke at you in any way they can. You have to toughen up, develop a thicker skin; otherwise, you'll have weaknesses, chinks in your armor that can let other people make you dance to their tune. I have a more personal example to give you; PM or IM me if you're interested (or I can post it here if other people are really interested).

It's part of growing up - you start to realize that a lot of the ideas you have about how the world works, how women work (and what they want), how you should act and behave and do things are actually pretty :downs:. I've been there, I'm still there, still working out where my reasoning is driving me off in the ditch. So just take it from someone who's been there and watched other people be there: there's a lot better things to choose (and no one can make you - your reactions are 100% in your control) to get riled up over than a slight to your girlfriend, who we've never seen, met, or know about.

Here's a bonus note: you'll neither get, nor keep, a girl by working yourself into a pissy firey rage when strangers on an internet forum make slights against her. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND - you're getting pissed off at people you've never met, likely never will, making unfounded remarks about some girl you're dating / fucking. And if you've got any sense at all, you know that you very likely won't be dating or give a shit about her two years from now. Please tell me that strikes you as an absolutely absurd waste of your energy and time. Instead of getting pissy at us, go give your girl the multiorgasmic fuck of her life, and collapse in post-coital bliss while thinking to yourself "those assholes are just jealous" and let it drop. (Oh, and if you are dating one who does actually care about insults on the internets, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE RUN. RUN FAST, RUN FAR. She's nothing but a huge dramabomb waiting to happen, and you really really don't want dramabombs. So get away. Preferably after getting one last good fuck in before you leave.)

Oh, and to be absolutely clear: I don't care if this offends you. It's the fucking truth, so think about it for a while. Let it marinate, sink in, and become understanding. THEN come back and tell me why I'm wrong, without resorting to a "you're a jerk because you insulted my girlfriend" bullshit. Otherwise, I will be pushing very hard for getting you banned.


Second, as far as the whole shitposting thing, that's something I've been noticing a lot lately, and you've been one of the worst. I've come to the point where I oftentimes log into the forums, click "unread posts" like I always do, skim the list, groan at the realization that there's not one good, useful, new, or interesting thing there. It's all back and forth readings of LOLOS GRAETSTE RETARDED ADVENTURES. Some's okay - playing around, blowing off steam - that's great. Lord knows I do it too. But when every thread turns into that, it brings the signal to noise ratio waaay too far towards the noise end, where I can't even browse these forums anymore. My time's valuable to me, and I don't want to waste 20 mins clicking through 30000 threads that are all one-liner tossback responses. This needs to be cut back (NOT stopped, but cut back heavily) by everyone, across the board. Windshipper's thread, for instance, is fine (I don't know why he's apologizing for it, but meh) - it's clear that it's a bullshit thread, and if I'm looking to have a high-brow discussion over the future of quantum mechanics, it won't be done there. But when every thread becomes something like that, then we have a BIG problem.

In short: all things in moderation, including moderation. Excess is necessary sometimes, because it's often the only way we can really learn the limits. We've had an excess of shitposting here, and it was necessary, because we can now see, for ourselves, up front and dirty and personal, what comes of it. But now it's time to cut back, and return this to a discussion forum, rather than a bullshit inanity forum.


Finally, if you're interested in maturing and toughening up, let me know. Something Awful is one of the best moderated forums I've encountered thus far (both from a "best among the boards that are moderated" and a "boards with the best moderation teams"). Bullshit like this doesn't fly there, at all. Posting half the stupidity I've seen here, from multiple parties, would get you banned in a heartbeat. Saying "oh please stop insulting my girlfriend you're mean" would just get you fucking reamed. And you will either have a nervous breakdown, or you'll toughen up, and start to appreciate having largely intelligent discussion with other internet denizens. Then, after a while, you'll start to enjoy seeing people fuck up like that, and watching the unholy terror hoards descend upon them. And a while after that, you'll be right along with them. And then you will be a grade-A asshole with a zero tolerance for stupidity, and a much better person for it. I'd be honored / entertained to buy you an account there; I either help you mature and become a better person, or I get to watch you crash and burn. Karma or entertainment, it's a win-win for me. :toot:


Preview edit: Also, just because you have a girlfriend doesn't mean you have no reason to watch porn (though some here will disagree with me). I've had girlfriends, and I still watch porn. Hell, some of the girls I've dated watch porn too. Don't force yourself or your relationship into any sexual stereotype. If you like porn, watch it. If she likes porn, all the better. If she's really opposed to it, then you'll have to decide what that means for you. If you think about it some, and conclude that you don't want to watch porn while you're dating a / this girl, awesome - that's your call. But don't jump to that conclusion just because you think that's the right answer - again, this goes back to the whole "chivalry is dead" thing. Live like you choose to live; don't appoint some creed as an absolute standard that you never question. This applies everywhere, not just to dating, and not just to porn.
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« Reply #413 on: May 03, 2008, 10:06:41 pm »
last post removed for the purpose of ending this.
cont, I'm sorry I upset you.
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Re: Introduction Thread: New users, please post here!
« Reply #414 on: May 03, 2008, 10:08:45 pm »
ok I said I was ready to move on.
this wasn't needed.
Please don't assume that just because I have a girlfriend it means I'm fucking her because I'm not.
You didn't have to call her a "dumb fucking cunt of a girlfriend" either because as you said, you have never met her.
This is my last comment on the subject so can we please just drop it?
caenus made the point, I agreed with him, it should have been over after that.
no more please.

1) :uhm:... I wasn't calling your girlfriend a dumb fucking cunt. That remark was in respect to people that I know / know of personally, not in respect to your girlfriend. Apologies for the misunderstanding. (The ones I'm talking about totally deserve it though.)

2) If you're not having sex, that's cool too. It's your call. I somewhat guessed that from the "oversexed" comment, but then got confused with the "thanks to MY GIRLFRIEND I don't need porn" thing. Either way, just know why you're making that choice - can you justify it to yourself, beyond a "for the Bible tells me so" blind-faith reason? Same goes for the porn. And trust me, if you're not having sex, then you'll need a release somewhere. Use your own judgment, but (especially) if you want to do the whole abstinence till marriage thing, then you'd do well to find one. Doesn't have to be porn-related; just don't take the attitude that having a sexual appetite is a bad thing that you should try to stifle. You'll be much happier and healthier for it.

3) I saw several aspects of your behavior and especially attitude that I found troubling on a personal level, so I addressed them in as much an in-your-face way as I could, just because I'm awesome like that. This is another part of growing up - just because you say "hey I'm sorry I've learned and I want to move on" doesn't mean everyone else will just forgive and forget. I especially don't do the "forget" part of that. I hadn't addressed your (and others') excessive shitposting and soforth, so I chose to. You can't just say "okay I'm done now" and wave a magic wand to wish away all consequences. One consequence for your consistent immature attitude is that you get advice from others who've been there. Take it, or leave it, but you'd be foolish to shove your head in the sand and ignore it, and worse to try to stop people from giving it to you just because you're tired of getting reamed for acting dumb (especially since I haven't gotten a chance to put in my licks yet :buddy: ).

reply-edit: muahahaha you're too late lolo. And don't worry, you didn't upset me a whole lot. The frustration is due to the state of the forums, and this is one step towards correcting it. Beyond that, I was purposefully being an asshole for the purposes of getting my point across in no uncertain terms, rather than a blind seething rage at you or something. It upsets and saddens me to see so many people today making so many of the same mistakes, so my goal is to help when and where I can.
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« Reply #415 on: May 03, 2008, 10:22:48 pm »
ok, caenus said move on so I was taking his advice.
if you want to talk about things, I will do so as long as it is in a calm manner and if you want to say what you are upset about specifically, I will listen  and do my best to correct it.
1) ok sorry I misunderstood.
2) I'd rather not discuss this. I do have a sexual history but have gotten into trouble for talking about it before so I'd rather not.
3) I'll listen to any "advice" you want to give.

Also, I want to make sure you know I am trying to cooperate rather than argue with you or anything like that.



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« Reply #416 on: May 03, 2008, 10:45:10 pm »
Trust me, I'm calm, so don't worry about that. You'd have to push me really hard to see me when I'm not calm. You're nowhere close. Just because I'm being an asshole, by choice, doesn't mean that I'm not saying what I say as specifically as I can, and as calmly as I can.

2) That's fine, and I'm not expecting you to (apologies if this wasn't clear). I'm sorry to hear you've gotten in trouble for talking about something as important and necessary as sex; that's something that puzzles me about today's culture as well - we view sex as so vital and important and sacred that we can't talk about it, and must instead treat it as the dirty little secret that everybody does but nobody acknowledges or admits to. At any rate, my goal isn't to force you to give a blow-by-blow of your sex life, or to get you in trouble; rather, I want to start / feed an internal dialog for yourself, so that you know why you're making the choices you are. You strike me as someone who hasn't given a lot of real, honest thought to it - you think you have, but have you really?

3) That's about it for advice right now - the reaction thing, the shitposting, and the internal dialog about run the gamut so far. I'll point out other stuff as we go along, though, don't worry. :)

And don't worry, you're showing a lot of improvement already. You'll fit in well, methinks. :)
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« Reply #417 on: May 03, 2008, 11:03:21 pm »
2)I'll keep that in mind

So is it safe to say we can put this behind us?
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« Reply #418 on: May 03, 2008, 11:08:59 pm »
:quagmire:

Please don't quote this LMAO. :rofl:


So is it safe to say we can put this behind us?

Well, I don't like the phrase "put it behind us" - if you go back to your old shitposting ways then this will all be for naught. But if you mean stop discussing it, and just continue on keeping the lessons in mind, then sure. :)
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« Reply #419 on: May 03, 2008, 11:16:22 pm »
ok, that sounds right.
If anything I post looks like what you define as a shitpost, let me know and I will remove it immediately.

I'm gonna go to bed now.
I'll be back tomorrow
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