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Title: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 12, 2008, 08:20:51 am
I figured we could use another of the many polls that exist. Let's see what everyone on here thinks. Of course, discussion is always good too.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: contingencyplan on September 12, 2008, 09:26:26 am
Right now, I'm on the Obamarama bandwagon. I don't keep up with it a great deal, though. But if for some reason Obama falls out of favor, I'm writing in Spider Jerusalem on my ballot.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 12, 2008, 10:12:49 am
Right now, I'm on the Obamarama bandwagon. I don't keep up with it a great deal, though. But if for some reason Obama falls out of favor, I'm writing in Spider Jerusalem on my ballot.

##vote cplan
admitted bandwagon!!!

Seriously though, it looks like I'm going McCain.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 12, 2008, 10:15:21 am
I tend to avoid political discussions, but I guess I'll weigh in at least.

I personally distrust Obama.  I'm not one of those right wing NUTCASES like Ann Coulter who thinks that the liberals are a bunch of subversive communist hippie spies who are trying to overthrow the nation, but I can't see myself voting for the man. 

He equivocates too often for my liking. 

Now, I know many politicians hide behind smoke and mirrors on BOTH sides of the aisle, but when he's asked a controversial question he responds with "I don't think it's my place to answer that" or "That's above my paygrade".

It's not like he was asked "What would you enforce as national policy regarding this controversial topic?" he was simply asked to express his opinion. 

Dodging questions like that irritates me to no end, because it makes me feel that I can't trust him.  He's going to do whatever's necessary to paint himself as being the best candidate for the job without actually revealing who we're ACTUALLY voting for.

That being said, I'm not all hugely enthusiastic about John McCain either.  This election feels very much like the 2004 election in that I felt that voting would be trying to cast a ballot for the lesser of two evils, neither of which I really wanted running my country.

And then I remembered that big business runs this country, not the government, and voted for whomever I agreed with on a personal level.

For me, that's typically the Republican party.  Although honestly, despite the historical significance of this election, I don't give a rat's ass who gets into the White House, and I don't think it'll matter all that much in the long run.

So you guys go have fun, vote for whomever you prefer.  I think I'll go to the movies and pump a little money back into the economy (that way I keep the big business owners happy and don't find myself in Gitmo  :tinfoil:). 

Besides, with everyone standing in line at the polls, the theaters are bound to be less crowded than normal.

 :patriot:
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Tokes on September 13, 2008, 10:41:53 am
I tried to pick other but my vote didn't work :(
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: MissTake1024 on September 14, 2008, 01:29:22 am
If McCain gets elected, I will be afraid to live in the US.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 14, 2008, 07:59:33 am
Why?  Do you have a valid reason or are you just spouting nonsense that's been force fed you by one camp or another?

That's almost as mindless and petty as claiming that if Obama gets elected we'll be an "Obama-nation".

It's people who promote thinking like that who make me want to scream.

:rant:

Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 14, 2008, 11:58:13 am
If McCain gets elected, I will be afraid to live in the US.
If McCain gets elected I will buy your plane ticket out of the states because I hate people who say shit like that. Oh, and "Don't look at me, I didn't vote for him" OH SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU PEOPLE. So you didn't vote for that person, wonderful, but the majority of the nation did and it's a republic. I'm sorry you were/may be a minority as far as your vote went, so fucking deal with it.

While I disagree with many things the republicans say and do, one thing that I RARELY see them do is have bumperstickers spouting shit like "He's not MY president!"

GodDAMN.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 14, 2008, 12:44:58 pm
Windshipper for president!

:patriot:

Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 14, 2008, 12:46:38 pm
Windshipper for president!

:patriot:


Only if you like Trajan or Kilgrey as VP.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: contingencyplan on September 14, 2008, 01:15:53 pm
Fuck, does it have to be one of those two? Trajan's just pandering to the military vote, and KilGrey has no foreign policy experience.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 14, 2008, 01:28:01 pm
Can I be the head of the CIA? 

PLEASE?

You give me unlimited resources and a month, and this world will be vastly improved.  And no one would ever know we were there.   :ninja:
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 14, 2008, 04:14:03 pm
Fuck, does it have to be one of those two? Trajan's just pandering to the military vote, and KilGrey has no foreign policy experience.
Fine, Dragnix for VP. He'd never leave that undisclosed location.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 14, 2008, 04:19:59 pm
 :rofl:
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 14, 2008, 05:02:19 pm
:rofl:
Erica for the Secretary of Cute Cuddly Animals Administration.
Trajan for Secretary of Defense
Dick Cheney for CIA head (that guy is so creepy NOBODY would fuck with us, seriously)
Caenus for head of the National Security Administration

I'll come up with more as I think of them.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 14, 2008, 05:04:02 pm
Oooooh, I like the NSA. 

 :ninja:

Now, does anyone know Sam Fisher's phone number?

Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 14, 2008, 05:09:11 pm
Oooooh, I like the NSA. 

 :ninja:

Now, does anyone know Sam Fisher's phone number?


(555) ABA-DASS
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 19, 2008, 04:36:05 pm
How come Ron Paul wasn't on the list? You're discriminating, aren't you? :raise:
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 19, 2008, 05:11:32 pm
How come Ron Paul wasn't on the list? You're discriminating, aren't you? :raise:

I had an "other" option...
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 19, 2008, 06:05:06 pm
How come Ron Paul wasn't on the list? You're discriminating, aren't you? :raise:

I had an "other" option...
Ron Paul is a major candidate...

He is not just an "other" candidate....


why aren't people voting ron paul....

.....
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 19, 2008, 07:49:31 pm
I added him to the list.
He obviously isn't going to be elected though.  :fish:
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 19, 2008, 08:37:56 pm
I added him to the list.
He obviously isn't going to be elected though.  :fish:
That's because of a conspiracy between the Republicans and the Democrats nationwide to marginalize the great man.  :jerkbag:

I mean come on, he wasn't even allowed into the RNC. WAY TO GO REPUBLICAN PARTY!  :downsbravo:

Christ and you're just a part of it too, not even adding him to the list, he's just an "other".
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 19, 2008, 08:44:53 pm
At this point, whether I support him or not, everyone knows that the major candidates are McCain and Obama. Nader was only added because he is a 3rd party SK candidate whose name pops up everywhere.

I liked Romney but you don't see his name on the list either.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 22, 2008, 03:51:58 pm
(http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v319/216/54/509956616/n509956616_1401362_8542.jpg)

 :colbert:
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 22, 2008, 04:47:11 pm
At this point, whether I support him or not, everyone knows that the major candidates are McCain and Obama. Nader was only added because he is a 3rd party SK candidate whose name pops up everywhere.

I liked Romney but you don't see his name on the list either.
NB: Nader's not running this year, I don't think.

Edit: Also, I REALLY hope you didn't ACTUALLY like Romney.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 22, 2008, 08:12:00 pm
Last I heard, Nader is running.

I didn't like Romney as some one who I'd actually vote for in November. I just thought it was cool that there was a Mormon running. So basically, there is nothing intelligent in liking Romney.

Has anyone heard Obama talk lately??
I forget what it was about but he was being asked about why he hasn't come up with a plan for something knowing that McCain has already presented a plan. His response was...(I don't have the exact quote but this is close.)
"I've seen McCain's plan and I've said why I don't like it."
Well...this doesn't answer the question. Criticizing Republicans isn't going to do much if you are actually elected. You are going to have to come up with things ON YOUR OWN!!

But wait, there's more.
He was asked about the struggling economy and what is to blame.
His response... (Again, not an exact quote.)
"So many people are sending kids to college and it's hurting them financially."
 :dumbass: :tinfoil:
So, in order to save or economy...Don't send kids to college?!?!?!?
Really?!?!?!?

Even when he was early in primaries...
I didn't think much of it and actually liked this but...
Everything he said seemed to be said ONLY in order to disagree with Hilary Clinton.
It's like all he does is tell you "this person sucks so you should pick me."
I know that this is how politics are but how far can it really go???

Ok, I feel like I'm building a mafia case and I don't want to end up "voting" (haha like in mafia...get it? ummm.....anyone???? hello????) for Obama so I'll stop now.

My point is I don't like what I hear when Obama talks...
I can't even imagine hearing him everywhere for the next 4 years...or worse....8 years.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: contingencyplan on September 23, 2008, 02:12:37 am
Quote from: kmd
Stuff about Obama
If you can find links, please feel free to post them, I'd be interested in looking at them.

I already tossed this at Cae, just for conversation's sake, but I'll post it here too: linkage (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?em=&pagewanted=print)

Now, NYT is usually pretty liberal, so I'll definitely agree that they could be (rotten) cherry picking. But even if a few of these are true, her attitude concerns me a great deal. I don't want someone in a position of power who uses that power to punish individuals for personal reasons; I don't like the idea of even testing whether using individual email addresses would allow them to sidestep subpoenas, even if it was just checked on by her staff (if she didn't support it, she should have fired the staff member who suggested it, honestly); and I don't like seeing her name in the same sentence / paragraph as supporting the banning of books from a public library. If I don't go with Obama, I know I'm not going with McCain / Palin.

And no, I haven't looked at Biden yet, any interesting information out there y'all have come across?

In the end, though, I'm pretty cynical regarding politics. Every person in an elected position is bought and paid for by special interests, lobbying groups, and megacorps. Nothing is really going to change, no real good is going to be accomplished. Mr. Smith is never going to Washington, and honestly is the first person in line to bend over and take it from the rear by the people in office. They don't care about the citizen, the common man, the person they're supposed to be acting on behalf of, and that's not going to change anytime in the foreseeable future. I'm not bitter at all, no sir.

So do I think the outcome of the election will make a major difference in our lives? Not really. However, I do think I have a civic duty to vote anyways, and since I like Obama (in a general sense, not in a "here's X reasons you should vote for him" sense) and don't like McCain / Bush / Palin, that's where my vote's going come November.

If for whatever reason it doesn't, I'm writing in Spider Jersualem. Windy can provide pics, I'm sure. :D

Oh, and to quote Robin Williams: Bush doesn't talk while Cheney's drinking water. Check that shit out.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: windshipper on September 23, 2008, 02:48:39 am
(http://windforums.windshipper.com/pics/Spider3.jpg)
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 23, 2008, 07:59:36 am
McCain / Bush / Palin

What does Bush have to do with this?  He's on his way out.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 23, 2008, 08:20:32 am
Quote from: kmd
Stuff about Obama
 
If you can find links, please feel free to post them, I'd be interested in looking at them.

I wish I had links just because it was so horrible.
I saw it on a TV that I was walking by, so I have no idea where to find it...
I'll try to find it on Youtube tonight but I doubt that I can find it...

I already tossed this at Cae, just for conversation's sake, but I'll post it here too: linkage (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?em=&pagewanted=print)

Well, the article is definitely one-sided in making Palin look terrible, but it does raise some good points. Before reading this, I was saying that I support McCain but didn't know much about Palin. She needs to be taken into consideration because of McCain's age. Thanks for the article. I'd rather see a neutral look at Palin before I decide on anything though.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Caenus on September 23, 2008, 10:42:39 am
You realize that the VP should ALWAYS be taken into consideration regardless of the age of the presidential nominee?

Anything could happen at any time to anyone in office.  A plane could go down, an accident could occur, someone could sit in a book depository with a high powered rifle, etc.

Seriously, as horrible as it is to speculate about this, I think there are too many ignorant people in the world and if Obama were to win the election, we're likely to see at least one if not multiple assassination attempts.  It's horrible, but it's the nature of the species.

Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: Kmd4390 on September 23, 2008, 11:37:34 am
This is very true but....

The main focus should be the actual presidential candidate. I am putting consideration into the vice presidential candidates but...
it's not going to be my main reason for voting.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: contingencyplan on September 23, 2008, 12:09:08 pm
McCain / Bush / Palin

What does Bush have to do with this?  He's on his way out.

From my post-post IM convo with windy:
I don't loathe Bush like a lot of people do, mainly because I just don't care enough (which is bad, I'll agree). But I don't like him, and I don't see where McCain will be enough of a digression from the standard party line to make even a modicum of difference. I think that's what I'm trying to say. So I realize it's the Dem standard line, McCain = Bush, and that's somewhat the idea I'm quoting, but it was done more for exaggeratory effect than out of honest belief.

So in short, it's halfway between "Bush is irrelevant he's on his way out" and "electing McCain is 4 more years of Bush." McCain isn't a copy-paste of Bush, but seeing as I don't like Bush, I think he's too close to Bush's policies and politics for me to really consider his candidacy completely independent of Bush's terms in office.
Title: Re: GNE Presidential Election Poll
Post by: contingencyplan on September 25, 2008, 08:11:28 pm
Since it's in the vein of the thread:

This is AWESOME. (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/09/letterman-mccai.html)